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Game #634 | Tourney training

marcuspers vs  Skuns453Lirik902


Match Details

Played:2017-09-03
Amount of Humans:2
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 45
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 marcuspersRogueGoblins1900here
2 Skuns453Lirik902WarlordTigrans2-90-20here
Posts to the game:

Screenshots will be uploaded here.

user
Published on Mon, 04 Sep 2017 07:26:28 +0200

Written by marcuspers
Yes, the Tomb in the vassal I couldn't clear in turn 6-7 when I was there, it was guarded by a T4 I think. All the SS is guarding my Throne, but you never moved there so you didn't see them, just the 2 in my main army.

With "Scouting" (10up) all units in my stack get +4mp, so all Assasin's and Shadowstalker in my leader army have 36mp, so they each move 12 steps in any terrain (except mountain) and the rest of the army was made of 36mp units with cave crawling, so basically they can all move the same distance. The Firstborn, Boar Rider, Shock Serpent, Pikeman was all a little behind when I moved, but I try give them the haste berries when a chance was there.

Published on Mon, 04 Sep 2017 00:42:19 +0200

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
P.P.S. I understand that the map was few big and etc. But I found 1 or 2 free treasures on the border of your domain not so far from your vassals cities  

Published on Mon, 04 Sep 2017 00:38:33 +0200

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
Thanks for the game too. I hoped that my starting position was very-very good for defense, but I had no time to prepare needing number of units.  <smiletext6>  And it's strange that you were so careless with your leader at the north of my domain)) But I hadn't full scout information about your position there so I didn't want risk my main forces. And also I would need few turns to catch you there.
You had researched Shadow Stalkers so fast  but later you mostly didn't use them.    Also I was shocked how could you move your Walking units (almost 3 stacks at once) on such long distances for 1 turn without Death March for Rogue. <smiletext22> 

P.S. I thought you didn't want to report this game for a some perion during the tourney.  <smiletext1>  Though I was once again convinced that I worst Warlord player))


user
Published on Sun, 03 Sep 2017 10:12:16 +0200

Thanks for a good game Skuns, I had my crows scouting and I think we meet around turn 18?
At that time I see a quite strong army, with a Theocrat hero with converting and already a few converted units, so I knew this will be a real tough match!



On Turn 22 I find your main army gathered, and I still have 10 turns (I cleared a Sphinx temple so it was actually quicker) until my Stalkers was researched.

And a few turns later, I see that you have split your forces and are quite close to my base, so here I was really cautious as my army was also split, and I could't beat your army without them being joint.



Where you went from here I don't know, but I was able to join my armies the turn after, and from there it was a straight path, with a surprisingly amount of uncleared (and good) sites! One which gave me Summon Shock Elemental, at the cost of a Inflict Death on my gold medal Stalker <smiletext6>

I started to take the cities one by one, and rather than then Plunder them, I migrated them all to Goblins which made me Pure Evil, reached 7 cities of the same race and also 7 towns, so I got a triple reward within 2 turns.


Since my main army was very far away from my base, and Skuns coming closer with his army, I started to release my cities as vassals, and it gave my free defenders, as well as HUGE tributes. I took the gold in below case, but the army for 518 gold would surely have been considerable as well.



A short comment on my starting location as well, it was a great defensive spot, with no UG/Surface entrance, and unpassable rocks all around it, just 1 way in and one way out.



Thanks for the game Skuns, was a good match, and I think if you was more aggressive around turn 22-27 it could have turned out differently.


Published on Sun, 03 Sep 2017 09:41:54 +0200

To Marcus
I've decided finally to surrender)) There were no ways to fight  <smiletext1> 

user
Published on Sat, 02 Sep 2017 15:59:04 +0200

I was merely looking for an update, as I didn't know what was going on!
If you are unusually busy or something else turns up, of course I understand you won't be able to make your turn in a long time.

I never advocate for a turn timer, but after 4 days you forget most of the things you wanted to achieve, or what plans/strategy you were thinking about!

Let's leave it without turn timer and we finish the game whenever it might be <smiletext0>

Published on Sat, 02 Sep 2017 12:33:57 +0200

To Marcus
Hi. Sorry again for the delay, as I said earlier in the chat. If you insist on the turning on the timer, I'm not argue. So fine - I'll turn it on. Which period do you prefer? 1, 2 or 3 days? I'm good at least with 2-day period. And if you want I can surrender immediately to let you more exciting chance to fight with other players 

P.S. You're I must have more aggressive strategy)) But I'm always trying to save as more good units as possible to the final fight)) And my scout strategy still not so well <smiletext6> 

user
Published on Fri, 01 Sep 2017 16:55:19 +0200

Hello Skuns,
I hope you are well, but I think we should put a timer on the game if we cant do a turn in 72h and no message. I would love to make a rematch vs a finalist in the last duel tournament, its good practice!
You need to be more aggressive and take more chances, I didn't play so well in this game.

user
Published on Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:47:44 +0200

Sadly the game crash during replay of battle, I attack you first time 4v1 and lost 2 fliers, and when I watch battle the hell hound kill your tigran then crash.


Same result 2nd time:

Published on Sat, 12 Aug 2017 05:19:57 +0200

To Marcus
Thanks for your words.   But it's not so much a wise strategy as a forced one.   I mean the protection of a inns. <smiletext0> Because I was trying to protect my rear. And obviously I was very lucky in that fights.   Because a scout is not so much strong as a sunguard. )) And also that reason (to protect my back) was one of reasons why I didn't clear Shrine of Angel which is located nearby. I wanted try to use it to clear another legendary site but I I thought carefully and changed my mind. 
As for a protection of watch tower, maybe it is too early to say this.   But, as you could see my territory near my main cities, there are two narrow isthmus. And I had a plan to protect both by 3 full stacks.    
And now I realize that I haven't enough resources and enough time for this plan. <smiletext6>

user
Published on Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:35:21 +0200

I must say I'm very impressed with your tactics, even though I feel I have been on the wrong end of some scout battles I should have won! I never thought of guarding inns and watch towers as strong as you have, probably very wise strategy!

user
Published on Wed, 09 Aug 2017 10:36:35 +0200

Hi Skuns, not to worry! Take your time, we have no timer to finish our game!

I hope you have less stress in the future. <smiletext0>

Published on Wed, 09 Aug 2017 04:17:20 +0200

To Marcus
Hi Marcus. I was too busy these days and was tired a little. Sorry for the delay.   I'll play my turn today or as a last resort tomorrow.

Published on Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:49:02 +0200

To Marcus
I'm straight on the other side of the map from you   There is almost a stone's throw  

user
Published on Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:03:23 +0200

Well I have played 9 turns, I hope you didnt just play 7, hehe <smiletext0>
No, the screenshot will show my domain, and my army, havent found you yet!

Published on Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:00:34 +0200

To Marcus
It's 7-th turn and your location are already near my domain?!  

user
Published on Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:11:11 +0200

For the first time in about 2 month I had a crash of the game. I took  screenshot and will post it when we meet as it show my army and location!

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:49:11 +0200

To Marcus
And who is Yedi Yoda?   Do you mean Master-Jedi Yoda?   Or someone else like famous Yeti? <smiletext1> <smiletext18>

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:45:41 +0200

To Marcus
   Sorry if some parts of my thoughts were not understandable  <smiletext6>  Though I thought that my mind was clear and my expressions were not so shadowy and vague  Simply my English is still not perfect <smiletext6>  And my Russian-speaking style of thinking is the main problem in that I think 

user
Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:38:06 +0200

You speak in mysterious ways, sometimes impossible to understand, but I guess also Yedi Yoda was the same, so I guess its part of the game

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:32:05 +0200

To Marcus
All empires are different and evolving by different ways. Therefore the small nation, which lost against one empire, can win with great superiority against another empire  So I don't lose my hope on the victory with the hopeless nation 

user
Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:19:08 +0200

I think this battle of small empires wont disturb the world cup of player vs player.
And if we finish before next turn, I wont report it as I think you might try a new class.

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:13:59 +0200

To Marcus
As I understand even if we will end soon this session we shouldn't report it for some period of time?   I don't mind but in this case I can't boast the fact that you beat me    

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:04:40 +0200

He-he  How long this Small nation will be staying the small one   under such experienced leadership  <smiletext17>

user
Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:53:19 +0200

I see it more as a battle of small empires. A small nation (a new player) enter the territory of another small nation (another new player) and they fight over this new territory to be able to fight the larger empires (more established classes) in the future. Therefore I also choose a small nation to enter the battle!

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:06:27 +0200

To Marcus
Hi. I'm glad to see your wish to fight with me   But it will be a training session, so I can't promise that it will be good or interesting <smiletext1>   Though I will do my best for this <smiletext23> 
Good luck and have fun))

user
Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:39:16 +0200

i can play if you host another training match

user
Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:36:43 +0200

Hi Skuns, I can join, I need a good practice match!

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:36:04 +0200
System notification


Tourney training
Hi everyone.
This is PBEM duel session with the tournament 1vs1 settings and the beta branch of the balance mod. Despite the fact it is the tourney training session everyone can join it. Are you a veteran or a beginner  on this site it doesn't matter. I like to meet new unexpected opponent 

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:36:04 +0200
System notification


Information Tourney training
marcuspers joined !!

Published on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 05:46:11 +0200

To all
Here are the screenshots of the settings: Host_1, Host_2, Host_3

Published on Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:39:43 +0200

To all
I will create this game later on AoW3 server. 
Game name will be "Skuns training game".
Password:  852