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Game #44 | PBEM 7

gabthegab vs  Olop vs  olschenstein vs  Hiliadan vs  Bracasse


Match Details

Played:2015-10-25
Savegame
Rating 3 - Regular Game
Amount of Humans:5
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 61
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 gabthegabArchdruidTigrans2118590here
2 OlopRogueDraconians43919-50here
3 olschensteinWarlordOrcs5189-100here
4 HiliadanTheocratGoblins100-54here
5 BracasseRogueHumans3-200-138Yhere
Posts to the game:

Very nice game thank you <smiletext0>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirmed by Olop
Confirmed by Olop

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirmed by Hiliadan
Confirmed by Hiliadan

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Ecrit par gabthegab
Oh sory for this misstake, i don't know how change that....

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Olop
You have olschenstein and olop reversed.  I was the orc warlord.

In turn 6 I saw a 7th level enamy hero/wizard.  Figured at that time I was in trouble.
Attaining 15th level in 15 turn was impressive.  But I do hope the game updates do
make it harder to do this kind of thing.

Also, I was the last out.  Not sure if that means I should finish in second
or if you go by the score.

Olop

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Hiliadan
Olop was 2nd and olschenstein 3rd actually. We need to correct the report, I'm dealing with that with Markymark.

Congratz Gab!
As we can see on the screenshot from the score, I was 2nd but lagging behind you when we met... I think you did a very very good job of leveling up your leader and all your spiders. You reach level 15 and the empire quest very quickly but even before that, at level 13, you had Regrowth + Call Lightning and like 3 Elite spider queens, 1 knight, 1 griphon, 1 king serpent... The game was already over... I tried to attack your cities but your main stack was too close and get back on me very quickly. Then you did a great job of baiting me into attacking 2 isolated units to kill me the next turn.
I wanted to have some turns of respite by tacking your attention to the North, so that I can build some Nagas, with which I could have beaten you (maybe)... But it didn't work when I made that mistake and got crushed.
Very well played!
But that kind of thing should not be possible any more with v1.703 which limit XP farming. We'll see in following games how it works for you.

Also, I found out Bracasse's AI about 2-3 turns after we kicked him out: he was just above me. But I was too busy with Gab to do anything against him.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

44 | Age of Wonders 3
Match has been reported, please confirm!
Back to the game page

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

44 | Age of Wonders 3
Very nice game thank you <smiletext0>
Back to the game page

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 24/10/2015, 09:45 AM >>
Congratz Gab!
Please report the game "Report game" link here. Don't forget to flag Bracasse as a quitter.
I'll comment a bit later (on the report probably), pretty busy recently.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 24/10/2015, 09:34 AM >>
Congratulations to gabthegab! <smiletext0>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

gabthegab écrit le 24/10/2015, 12:05 AM >>
Victory  thank you for the game Hiliadan you can comment <smiletext1>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 19/10/2015, 01:51 PM >>
Got killed too. <smiletext6>
Well done defeater!

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 15/10/2015, 02:42 PM >>
Got killed!
Good luck to the survivors! I'll comment when it's over.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 09/10/2015, 04:41 PM >>
ok, these things happen. no sweat. 

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 08/10/2015, 05:06 PM >>
The upload failed and then I opened the game again to re-upload and it gave me the "ironman reloading" warning (first time it happens to me... usually when the upload fails, which happen very often to me due to VPN issue in China, it never displays the ironman message)... So I had to reload.
I have a screenshot of my turn start with "End of turn" ready to be clicked, if needed.

Counter of restarts (if I didn't miss any):
- Hiliadan: 1

EDIT : v1.703 released, we can switch to it, even though it's  a bit late to nerf some of our player here who already completed an EQ ()

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

gabthegab has written at 04/10/2015, 11:27 AM >>
The problem is player near Bracasse have now free city free exp and free item <smiletext0>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 03/10/2015, 03:04 PM >>
Bracasse, we've been without news from you for about 5 days. It's good that you eventually explain and apologize for that but I think it will be hard for you to play competitive PBEM if you cannot connect at least once every 48 hours.
For this game, I'm sorry but we have to consider you as a quitter and report you to other players in the site.

As I said, I don't want to restart. I think restart should be considered only in extreme cases (like what happened in the "Tournament training" game with Markymark getting defeated on turn 1, which is really not fun.
Gab did not state any preference. If he wants to restart, then at 3 vs 1, I'll accept, but otherwise, let's just continue please. As I said, I don't think anyone will get a big advantage at this point. By the way, it's not "free cities" or "free items" as there is an AI to protect them.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

gabthegab has written at 03/10/2015, 01:47 PM >>
Hillidan you chose <smiletext0>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Bracasse écrit le 03/10/2015, 11:17 AM >>
Salut à tous.

Je vois que vous êtes plutôt mécontent, ce que je comprends.

Je suis vraiment désolé de vous avoir fait attendre, mais j'ai eu des soucis de connexion et je suis vraiment incapable de tenir la cadence de 1 tour par 24h.
Je ne suis pas quelqu'un qui abandonne une chose qu'il a commencée, lorsque je me suis engagé et surtout lorsque d'autres dépendent de moi, mais là... désolé.

J'attends donc votre avis sur ce que je dois faire et je le fais.

Encore désolé, j'espère que vous ne m'en voudrez pas trop.

A bientôt, j'espère.



Hi everybody.

I see you are quite unhappy , as I understand it .

I'm really sorry to keep you waiting , but I had connection problems and I am really unable to hold the rate of one revolution per 24 hours.
I'm not someone who gives up something he started when I committed myself and especially when others depend on me , but there ... sorry .


I await your opinion on what I should do and I do it.

Sorry again , I hope you do not mind too much.

See you soon, I hope.


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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 02/10/2015, 07:11 PM >>
Gab, do you want to restart? I don't.
9 turns it's at least 9 days, and next week, as I said, I will be on holiday so may play much more slowly.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 02/10/2015, 07:02 PM >>
A Vote! Yeah! <smiletext0> restart for me please!

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Olop has written at 02/10/2015, 06:49 PM >>
I doubt it would take two weeks to reach turn 9 if we restart.
The remaining players have played quickly.

I prefer a restart, then we get rid of any unfair advantage/disadvantage
from the AI taking over for Bracasse.

I will continue to play this game, but I think more are in favor
of a restart than not.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

gabthegab has written at 02/10/2015, 05:27 PM >>
The problem is player near Bracasse have now free city free exp and free item <smiletext0>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 02/10/2015, 11:16 AM >>
ok, so be it.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 02/10/2015, 11:14 AM >>
I'm not in favour of restarting. We're turn 9, it already took us more than 2 weeks to get there. I'm going to kick him out and he will be replaced by an AI.
We will have opportunities to play other games with no quitter later, but first let's finish this game as it is. It would of course have been better if he stayed but I think it is manageable for everyone to win, even with this.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 02/10/2015, 11:08 AM >>
since bracasse seems to be gone for good let´s restart the game.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

gabthegab has written at 02/10/2015, 09:28 AM >>
Like i have say, for me the best if Bracasse quit this game is : nobody attack Bracasse he surrender after raze all city, but we can do like you want <smiletext0>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 01/10/2015, 07:59 PM >>
I just requested the same thing. But even if they´d implement it, it won´t help us with our running game, I guess. ;-)

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Olop has written at 01/10/2015, 07:43 PM >>
Does any know if Triumph has "allow someone to take over for
a player in PBEM" on their list of things to do?  I have requested
this in a couple emails to them, but have never gotten a response.

This is how I got started with AOW.  I subbed in a few games of
AOWSM PBEM.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Olop has written at 01/10/2015, 07:32 PM >>
Razing cities has issues also, as does letting the AI play.

Taking away targets (razing cities) is as bad as making targets
easier (letting AI take over).  Either decision will effect someone
negatively.

Since we are not so far in, I would vote for starting over with 4.
Or, if we want 5 players, finding a reliable 5th and start over.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 01/10/2015, 05:09 PM >>
@bracasse: thanx for nothing! <smiletext6>
@all: the rest of us seem to be reliable. starting all over again would be an option.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 01/10/2015, 04:55 PM >>
The issue is that he doesn't seem to be playing at all any more... I'm ok to wait so that he razes his stuff but I'm afraid he won't do it.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

gabthegab has written at 01/10/2015, 04:00 PM >>
Like i have say, for me the best if Bracasse quit this game is : nobody attack Bracasse he surrender after raze all city, but we can do like you want <smiletext0>

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 01/10/2015, 01:12 PM >>
I'm waiting for the opinion of Gab (and potentially Bracasse himself).

Also to inform you that I will be away on holiday for 1 week starting Saturday, so I think I will move the turn timer to 2 days or even longer during that period.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Olop has written at 30/09/2015, 08:09 PM >>
Replacing Bracasse with AI is good with me also.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 30/09/2015, 07:28 PM >>
replacing him with the AI is fine with me.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 30/09/2015, 07:18 PM >>
So.. what should we do with Bracasse?
I suggest kicking him as it's probably better than an AI plays instead of no-one. What do you think?

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 29/09/2015, 06:58 AM >>
Yes, that's probably the best solution Gab.

So see what is best Bracasse. Either you raze everything then surrender, or you stay but be sure to be able to play every 24 hours most of the time, and when not, warn in advance (but it must be exceptional).

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

gabthegab has written at 28/09/2015, 11:19 PM >>
If Bracasse leave the best is : no body attack him and he raze all city before surrender.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

olschenstein schreibt am 28/09/2015, 08:41 PM >>
@hiliadan: I don´t know exactly what bracasse wants. But if he wanna leave the game, let him go. If it´s technically possible.

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Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan has written at 28/09/2015, 04:32 PM >>
It would be better if you wrote English so that everyone can read...

There is no way that someone replaces you. The best would have been for you  to warn us that you could not connect this week end, so that I extend the turn timer.
However, yes I think it will be an issue if you cannot connect once every 24 hours to play your turn during week ends. Leaving an ongoing game is considered as being a "quitter", which is prohibited by this site. I'm really bothered because I clearly stated in the settings of the game that it was a 1 day turn timer game... You should have read carefully! <smiletext6> Now, you just penalize everyone.