Game #883 Tournament game#8 | Round 1 : 2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament #8

El_Lobo vs  EarL1893 vs  $eeR vs  Lck

Match Details

Rating 3 - Regular Game
Amount of Humans:4
Kind of Report:2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 60
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 El_LoboNecromancerGoblins229140here
1 EarL1893SorcererHumans21800here
2 $eeRArchdruidElves1-200-30here
2 LckDreadnoughtGoblins100-44here
Posts to the game:
Published on Mon, 26 Nov 2018 13:47:15 +0100

Bestätigt durch El_Lobo
It was a good game from me and as Seer stated necro was a lucky choice against goblins and AD. Anyways the game was far away from perfect. I lost my 1st hero in turn 8 or 9 I think in due to some nasty swarm darters. I forgot that they don't suffer range AND line of sight penalty. I was really pissed at that point (maybe some guys remember that some weeks ago I was crying like a little child in the chat why swarm darters do not suffer line of sight penalty).
Loosing the hero hits me really hard because I lost 50% of my healing abilities. Fortunately I was able to control a wrath around turn 12 what allows me to handle some tough fights.  Unfortunately I havn't got the screen when I lost my throne. It was the first "real" action in the game and happened before the fights I posted in the game thread.

Published on Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:08:20 +0100

Confirmed by EarL1893
not my best game - i was carried by Lobo to be honest (He did all the hard work )

Published on Mon, 26 Nov 2018 05:59:53 +0100

Was a decent game however i don't think im too fond of some of these tournament settings ,  wish we had gotten better start positions ....... + goblin and elf-ad not the best necro adversaries

but apparently wall slider was a touch off or something.

Published on Sun, 25 Nov 2018 02:11:20 +0100

well , looks this one will be finished shortly ,   wish i had known elf shamans no longer got fairy fire attack , poison bolts do shit all vs a necro , GL in next round lads

Published on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 12:21:08 +0100

turn 42

Published on Mon, 19 Nov 2018 21:34:24 +0100

Hi! What turn did you reach so far? 20 days left.

Published on Sat, 10 Nov 2018 12:13:34 +0100

Turn 35 and the first "real" battles have been fought. Lck attacked me out of nowhere with this very fast stacks but fortunately his leader and hero got killed.

I launched a counter-attack with some other troops and killled all the rest of Lck's troops.

EDIT: I had to correct the post because it was not Seer attacking me. Sorry fot that. Has anybody the screen when I lost my throne?

Published on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 00:10:47 +0200

turn 11

Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:09:58 +0200

Hi! Checking on all games: what turn did you reach? <smiletext0>

Published on Mon, 01 Oct 2018 10:30:57 +0200

Hi guys,

When you are hosting a game, please put some effort in to provide screenshots of the settings. You don't need to be a skilled "computer person" to make a screenshot, put the game in windowed mode and upload an image here on the site.

For those that are unable to make those 3 steps, you can ask your team mate to host the game.

Here is a simplified guide of how to get the right settings:
1. Put the game in windowed mode, from the AOW3 launcher:

  • Go to the tab graphics and enable "Display mode" windowed

2. Take a screenshot of all screens, preferably not a "steam screenshot" as that limits the capture to the steam application. 

  • How to make a screenshot on a windows computer:

  • How to make a screenshot on a Mac computer:

3. Upload the images here on battlefield:

  • Under the window to write your text, you find a button saying "Attachment Choose File", click on that button to select your recently taken screenshot.

  • Press the button "Add" - Wait for the file to be uploaded

  • Do this for all screenshots

  • Find the recently uploaded images under the "Attachment Choose File" and press insert in text

If you need any further help, please contact me or Hiliadan via a PM.

Published on Sun, 30 Sep 2018 00:38:36 +0200

the settings are all correct , all players are in the game , am going to launch it today 

Published on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:40:05 +0200

I joined the game even without the screens of all the settings. I trust Seer and really want to get this game started.

Published on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:03:52 +0200

Windowed mode is actually less intensive in terms of computer resource than full screen so I don't get what you are talking about with your old laptop.
And, you didn't provide the screenshots of the settings, so your game still can't start.

$eeR, please do some efforts and ask to other people to help you with this, you are the only one on all 8 games that have such troubles getting it right...

Published on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 05:49:10 +0200

dude my regular PC video card died like a week ago ,   even attempting to do windowed mod on laptop was pain in ass

i mean its a decent enough laptop , but not as good as other pc  ...took sevral tries just to get correct screensetup to run the program after windowed mode....  was quite the pain in ass actually.

as afore mentioned many times apologies but i am not the most technically proficient computer uh......technician or whatevever.

i have changed status to ongoing on site here , hope all are ready to rumble.

time for a beer. Happy Hunting 

Published on Sat, 29 Sep 2018 05:40:11 +0200
System notification

Round 1 : 2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament #8
Please click here to read the rules.

In order to avoid advantaging one team or the other, for each match, the team who will host the match was randomly selected.
The first team in the "turn order" above (who is also the team on top in the tree here must host the game).

Any of the players in the team can host.
Tournament Game #8 Round 1 !

When players do not show up for their match, the Tournament Judges have the right to change the match!

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:46:37 +0200

Thanks for rehosting $eeR. In the link you gave, I see only 1 screenshot and it's not in windowed mode so I don't see a timestamp. The timestamp from Steam can do for now (but $eeR, please try to get someone to show you how to use windowed mode on AoW3 and how to upload a picture to some site, on the BF or Imgur or whatever), but please point to all the screenshots of the settings.

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:26:20 +0200

pretty sure i only took 3 screenshots as somebody beforehand suggested , but if those sliders are correct then the rest of settings are ABSOLUTELY exactly to tournament settings.

the guys can see the advanced rules when they enter the game.

at work right now but can post them to steam later in addition to that one i already linked.

no still have not ascertained the easiest way to post those shots here , it does not seem to simply cut and paste them.

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:30:22 +0200

Yes, that is acceptable.
Please post the screenshots here in the blog as well.

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:25:54 +0200

just rehosted 

is this what is required ?

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 02:39:39 +0200

alright ill give it another go with lev 13 then ,  and what is the issue just the diggable walls slider is a bit to high ?

really all this hassle for that ?

Published on Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:20:47 +0200

In order to avoid too much discussion and stop wasting our playtime please host it with all the rules from the tournament page. Ich guess we are the last match which hasn't started yet and the round only last another 73 days. That means that we won't reach turn 20 if every player need a day for a turn. Please let's start now.

Published on Thu, 27 Sep 2018 14:53:13 +0200


Well, when we play a tournament I'm sure everyone appreciate when there is a "judge" who look after settings etc. so that all have a fair playing field?

To have the same amount of water as diggable walls is not in favor of balance, and can therefore not be accepted as an agreeable change, no matter if the other team agree or not.
Same with lvl 15 instead of 13, there is a reason why it was lowered to 13 from 15. There is many other EQs that can be obtained, so there is still much use for it. 

Here is the original photo of the geography setting:

Its not a big change that is needed, but this in combination with the wrong hero/leader lvl calls for a rehost.
Unless you have hosted another map with the 2 mods needed, all settings are saved and it would take 1min to rehost the map and take 2 screenshots (hero level plus reducing walls).

Published on Thu, 27 Sep 2018 04:02:02 +0200

well look guys i hosted it damn near enough to the tournament settings , except the max lev 15 part ,   and truthfully there is no "percentage" on the slider bar ,  its damn well close to where it should be.

just hop in the game or is there still some objection ?  i have not rehosted it yet , but honestly why all the damn nitpicking.

i am not attempting to gain any kind of advantage , this is where im fairly certain the approximation is for the rmg to make a good map.

only thing that marcus was pointing out is that the undiggable wall slider is just ever so slightly left of the diggable one.

Published on Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:10:21 +0200

Alright, I misread for the Diggable Wall level. But still, the settings is 15%, not 25%. So you're not +/- 2%, you're 10% above it.

Published on Wed, 26 Sep 2018 22:07:27 +0200

Imo you can host with max. level 15 but not with that "no path for anything" mod.

Published on Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:28:59 +0200

Walls are not at 50%  its at the tournament settings ( 25% ) + / - 2%  .........

and ok Lobo if u really don't want the max hero level at 15 i will change it , but what then is the fun of having the Hero Level 15 empire quest.

Hiliadan , i don't have time to read changelogs of most recent changes to balance mod.

I play for fun , don't study every single detail down to the finest point.

and if a 2% wall slider differential is that serious of an issue ....let the other team host it

Published on Wed, 26 Sep 2018 00:08:46 +0200

Havn't talked to Earl yet but I would prefer the settings from the tournament. It's better to play all games in the tournament with the same settings. No rapid mod isn't necessary because these endless rapids were changed (as Hili said) and I am definetly against using a mod I havn't used so far.

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:28:41 +0200

"they can see the sliders , but since this match is between us and them , i will only rehost at their request , if they desire it." Not really $eeR, it's a tourney match and the rules are:
"2. The settings described in the “In-Game settings” above are to be considered the default. If all the players involve in a game agree, they can arrange settings that differ from default settings in order to improve balance (e.g. if some exploit or imbalance has been discovered during the tournament but has not yet been dealt with the usual balance mod). Judges can oppose the settings change."

Here, I fail to see how keeping diggable wall to 50% improves balance and I think it's the same for Marcus.
If your opponents are fine with it, we might accept it but this setting change does not really seem justified to me.

Regarding the Path of and the rapids, please check the changelog of v1.25: />- Blocked Rivers (rapids) are now generated only as small sections of rivers (about 5 hexes long), and not as long rivers
- Path of xx (Frost, Decay, Life, …) abilities become strategic activable abilities giving the Path for 1 turn

So the mods you suggest are unnecessary.

We received the class/race of both teams.

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:17:31 +0200

thanks for checking through the screenshots Marcus ,  if my opponents have an issue with the sliders or anything , sure i can rehost it if need be ( perhaps without the strong defenders shit reward mod ) if opponents agree ?

they can see the sliders , but since this match is between us and them , i will only rehost at their request , if they desire it.

as i also mentioned , may be worth using the no rapids on RMG mod too , or worth consideration. I also feel the the "No path of Anything" is very good mod for pbem , as those fun little trails that units leave on previously explored map sections are quite indicative of troop movements at times ,  however a smart player could use them also to set traps or mislead opponents etc.   but think better without any paths being left , just my opinion.

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:00:05 +0200


Steam screenshots are not the same as a "normal" screenshot, as it only cover the steam application window.
The timestamp of the screenshots are visible though, so that is not a problem. Would still be good if you upload them here in the game blog.

Apart from lvl 15 you also left the slider for diggable walls higher than undiggable walls and at a similar level as water.
This could favor a class/race that can dig through walls. 

You need to fix those 2 errors and rehost the game.

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:09:16 +0200

i did launch the game in windowed mode also but the screenshots do not reflect that or do they ?

anyhow other than bumping leader level to 15 accidentally , im pretty sure i got all settings correct.

also NOTED still against using the strong def normal reward mod , i would propose instead we use the no rapids on RMG mod.

if its needed that i rehost let me know , otherwise PW is beer , hop in and lets have a good match lads.

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 11:06:26 +0200 />

well i don't really know if i did all the screenshots perferct , but they are all in my steam public screenshot porfolio..... i think i posted the needed links

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 10:56:40 +0200

ok its up and hosted and i made screenshots....

why use empire quests if max hero level can't get to 15 ?

screenshots posted shortly here if i can manage it , or at  least links to them published on steam will be here

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 10:35:04 +0200

attempting to host it right now lads , sorry for the delay , Lck and i are different time zones / continents so our strategizing has been a bit slow ,

i have just submitted our leader choice to hiliadan now and will attempt at hosting and  publish steam screenshots for you guys to check over.

Published on Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:43:24 +0200

Hi there! Giving $eeR and Lck 48 additional hours to send their class/race and post the screenshots of the settings. After that, they'll be replaced by reserve list teams.

Published on Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:37:21 +0200

Is this match already hosted?

Published on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:07:57 +0200

Windowed mode means going to Graphics in the launch screen, then "Display Mode": "Windowed".

Published on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:56:22 +0200

I think the windowed mode means uploading it here and then use the insert in text button so that everyone can see the screens in your post.