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Game #879 Tournament game#3 | Round 1 : 2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament #3

Retromancer vs  mahimka vs  SleepingDog vs  personian


Match Details

Played:2018-11-20
Rating 4 - Not good Game
Amount of Humans:4
Kind of Report:2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 56
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 RetromancerWarlordOrcs147230here
1 mahimkaTheocratDwarves123110here
2 SleepingDogRogueHalflings200-42here
2 personianWarlordDwarves200-29here
Posts to the game:
user
Published on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:45:18 +0100

Written by Hiliadan
I wonder how the friendly interface made you go to the game's blog (which is hard to find once the game is reported) and then wrongly select "reactivate game".
But alright, asking Markymark to re-finish it since it seems I can't do it.

Congratz on the victory!

user
Published on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:28:15 +0100

Written by Retromancer
"Friendly interface"

user
Published on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:24:43 +0100

Written by Hiliadan
Hi! Ok SleepingDog, so you get no warning. However, the best would have been to do as I indicated: pause the game (remove the timer) and ask to judges what's best to do. And then you would in the end be able to play your turn instead of skipping it.

@Retromancer: why did you reactivate the game after reporting it?

user
Published on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 22:22:47 +0100

Confirmed by mahimka
Confirmed by mahimka

user
Published on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:59:25 +0100



Published on Tue, 20 Nov 2018 18:32:01 +0100

I didn't reload the turn, i let it pass. 

We are at turn 37, but i will probably die very soon since i couldn't play the last turn,
but well i hold the 2v1 long enough for such a shitty game from my side, so all is fine. <smiletext0>


user
Published on Mon, 19 Nov 2018 21:31:48 +0100

Hi! Sorry seeing this message only now. So you had 1 Ironman notification, right? Were you able to continue the turn after?
You need to pause the game when such crash and Ironman notification happens.

So that's 1 warning for reload without proof for SleepingDog from what I can see.

What turn did you reach? 20 days left.

Published on Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:51:04 +0100

I can't play my turn in the tournament, because the game has ended himself. Since i couldn't even start the game after this i will reinstall it now. 
You don't have to stop the timer, because i don't have any proof that this happend in tournament game.

user
Published on Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:56:24 +0200

I have made the turn
Timer is on

user
Published on Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:48:27 +0200

Ok thanks. You can continue the game.

user
Published on Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:34:05 +0200

I`ve sent the log 

user
Published on Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:32:49 +0200

Hi there! So Refineus gets another warning. He had a video showing what he played and when the crash happened, which is considered adequate proof.
Refineus, we asked you to play in debug mode last time, so can you please also send the log from AoW3? It's in C:\Users\[user name]\Documents\My Games\AoW3\Logs  You need to find the logMMDD_HHMM with the MMDD equal to the month and day when you played.

Also, as said by PM, please try to get a Windows PC to play as Mac seems quite unstable.

user
Published on Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:12:53 +0200

What should i do?

user
Published on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:12:52 +0200

On my turn, the game was crashed
The video was sent to judges, waiting for the response

user
Published on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 21:50:51 +0200

Turn is done, timer is on

Published on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:47:33 +0200

Well, it seems like you doing your turns too fast for me, now that my vacation is over.

user
Published on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:05:57 +0200

Lucky you! )
Timer stoped

user
Published on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:57:15 +0200

You can ask for him.
So if you see this, please remove turn timer @host.

Published on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:24:42 +0200

Sleeping Dog is about to miss another turn..... :-(   

I guess I can't ask for an extension on his behalf?

This game's turning into a mess, lol.  

user
Published on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:30:59 +0200

Sleepingdog, sorry that you skipped the turn
Marcuspers, thank you for additional time

user
Published on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:47:04 +0200

@Sleeping Dog, you missed your turn 3?
Yes, sadly if you didn't write anything in the blog about inability to make your turn, the turn can't be reverted.

I hope you guys can make an effort to try get 1-2 turns per day at least during the weekends.
You will get a small extension due to Retromancers early hiccups, but probably not more than a week as it stands now.

Published on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:05:01 +0200

It's alright, i forgot to do my turn so it's my fault. You guys can just go and continue your turns. This one turn is not such a big problem, i can handle this. 

Hope it's ok like this, judges?

user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:58:52 +0200

Rules 3:
"3. If one player temporarily cannot play his turns in 24 hours (e.g. because of holidays, or personal issues), and warn the host reasonably in advance, then the host should temporarily change the turn timer to accommodate him.
If a player skips his turn because of the timer, it is not allowed to revert the turn: the host should remove the turn timer and players should notify judges and wait for their indications on how to continue."

So unfortunately, Retromancer added back the turn timer BEFORE he played his turn and because the timestamp of the turn timer is the beginning of the last time it was on (so here it was immediately after personian played his turn, which was some days ago), and the last duration set (so here 24 hours), it means that when you reactivate a turn timer that was on before (on the same player's turn), it will usually lead to the turn being skipped.
So a turn timer should never be set: 1/ at the beginning of a game, 2/ on the turn of someone where it was removed. You need to wait for the turn of the 2nd player to set it.

After his turn was skipped, Retromancer immediately reverted instead of contacting judges.

So unfortunately, that's a warning for not following the rules. That's the 2nd warning and we're only turn 3.... Please be more careful, we clearly can't continue like that. If you face an issue, please contact judges first before doing something (so here you should have contacted us before reverting).



Then, regarding debug mode: the issue you had was not the one I thought. The issue was there because you had the crash. When there is a crash, sometimes the game wants you to play in debug mode, or NOT to play in debug mode. But starting from turn 4, you should be able to play in debug mode without problem.

user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:38:46 +0200

It's not version conflict. Just accept the message and play the turn. It does not prevent playing. So please keep debug mode.

user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 10:32:59 +0200

I have a problem - when I run in debug mode I have a mod conflict
Here is the video - https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8f8lagxpuv91dh/zoom_0.mp4?dl=0
I will proceed without debug mode on my own risk, but with video records of my play

user
Published on Sat, 13 Oct 2018 16:22:59 +0200

Hi! Ok so Retromancer gets a warning for reload with proof considered adequate. The screenshots do show a crash.
However, if it happens again (and we hope it doesn't), please try to get a screenshot when the game is still opened on the match.

Also @Retromancer: please run in debug mode from now on, so that we can get debug log if it crashes.

@all: so you can continue the game. Retromancer needs to replay his turn. (and please check it displays only 1x Ironman)

user
Published on Wed, 10 Oct 2018 10:12:56 +0200

Hi, waiting for feedback from the opposing team, please check your PMs.

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 23:38:12 +0200

Hi again,

after i won the battle vs bandit camp (without losses) the game crashed
screens attached, timer stoped

What should i do?

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 14:48:35 +0200

I`ve made my turn and started the timer
However, i didn't upgrade the version of PBME & Single player mod

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:35:29 +0200

Everything is fine, thanks a lot )
I`ll make a turn today, and put the game on a timer

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:20:10 +0200

Edited my response after I saw you uploaded new images.

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:10:59 +0200

You still have the wrong mod enabled (on your screenshot its the first mod).
You need to use the one that doesn't have "beta" in the name anymore.
Here is the link to the mod updated last on 31st of August, which I believe is the version you used initially:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qv7gezs9rk8o60p/AACzd_8kZNbCV4rWprAGTdlLa/20180831_v1-25-main?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

EDIT: Press Uptdate to force the launcher to check the "user content folder" !

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 13:03:35 +0200

Hello,


  1. Remove the folder for PBEM Balance Mod (main branch) in user content

  2. Unsubscribe from the mod in Steam workshop

  3. Download the right version from the dropbox link

  4. Move the downloaded file to user content

  5. (Hopefully) Play the turn



1 - done
2 - done
3 - done
4 - done
5 - fail 

The problem is what I was downloaded is .taf file.
However, the structure of folder with mods is a little bit different. Game cant recognize .taf
Please check the attached examples
I`ve also tried to create a folder and put the file into it, no luck with that - mod cant be recognized by AOW3

I`ve also added Hiliadan as friend in Steam

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:57:54 +0200

To summarize, what you need to do is:

  1. Remove the folder for PBEM Balance Mod (main branch) in user content

  2. Unsubscribe from the mod in Steam workshop

  3. Download the right version from the dropbox link

  4. Move the downloaded file to user content

  5. (Hopefully) Play the turn



Good luck, I hope it works!

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 01:19:18 +0200

You're using the wrong mod (beta branch). This game is not going to be restarted in any case. Please add me on Steam: Hiliadan.
Also please follow Marcus' instructions because you apparently didn't. You're not using the previous version of the main branch.
(https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qv7gezs9rk8o60p/AABNUMDz1J9CSqGsUvJsrlzwa?dl=0 20180831_v1-25-main)

user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 01:09:37 +0200

I`ve done everything i can - still mod conflict exist
I suggest restart that game, I only started a second turn

user
Published on Sun, 07 Oct 2018 15:28:36 +0200

Retromancer, could you please clarify the issue?

Is it the mod that is being updated automatically back to the latest version? If yes, then please unsubscribe from it on Steam. Then revert back to the previous version as explained (with the Dropbox's .taf).

If you still have an issue after that, please come to the chat https://www.the-battlefield.c... and click on my name (when I'm online) to open a private chat tab.

user
Published on Fri, 05 Oct 2018 17:46:15 +0200

Ok thanks for the update.
Please turn of the timer of not already done and I will discuss with Hiliadan how we proceed.
I hope this act as a warning for you to be careful when you save and exit in the middle of a turn.

user
Published on Fri, 05 Oct 2018 17:24:32 +0200

I found the folders, however there is no luck with file replacing, software updates it to latest version automatically