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Game #997 Tournament game#22 | Round 3 : 2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament #22

SleepingDog vs  personian vs  $eeR vs  Lck


Match Details

Played:2019-07-13
Rating 5 - Bad Game
Amount of Humans:4
Kind of Report:2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 59
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 SleepingDogunknownunknown157280here
1 personianunknownunknown137180here
2 $eeRunknownunknown2-230-30here
2 Lckunknownunknown200-29here
Posts to the game:
user
Published on Mon, 22 Jul 2019 23:12:14 +0200

Written by Hiliadan
Hi!
So, $eeR and Lck got a score malus for not providing the videos of the crash of $eeR and not communicating with judges (even sending the turn to personian without judges knowing). The issue lasted 19 days so the malus was applied over 19 days. As announced some months ago in the Tournament Player Pool, judges had agreed on score malus for each day of delay in a game. Those malus were applied, with a higher malus after 10 days of delay. As a consequence, the combined score of $eeR and Lck was reduced and, after this reduction, they lost by score to SleepingDog and personian.

This is quite sad that the game was decided by score because it didn't progress fast enough. It's even more sad that the victory is also decided by malus due to delays. Hopefully from now on, we won't have such issues in the 2vs2 Tourney...

@all: please update the class/race in the report.
@SleepingDog and personian: please get ready for next game and let's start it ASAP so that we are able to finish it.

user
Published on Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:10:55 +0200

Written by Hiliadan
Hi! personian took only the screenshot of the global score. We need the other scores (military, research, domain).

Did you plan to continue this game after? If not, then @personian: please end your turn. And @the next player (Lck I think), please surrender at the beginning of turn and take screenshots of the missing scores WHILE PLACING THE SLIDER ON THE PREVIOUS TURN. We want the score on the turn personian surrendered, not the next turn.
Then @Lck: please send the screenshots to judges (marcuspers, Jonny Thunder and me) by private message.

Published on Tue, 16 Jul 2019 05:29:38 +0200

Confirmed by personian
Where did you want me to send the save endgame file, if anywhere?  

Published on Tue, 16 Jul 2019 05:20:48 +0200

Confirmed by personian
Confirmed by personian

Published on Mon, 15 Jul 2019 22:45:01 +0200

Confirmed by Lck
Confirmed by Lck

user
Published on Mon, 15 Jul 2019 22:14:41 +0200

Written by Hiliadan
Hi! It should be personian's turn now. @personian: please follow these instructions ASAP, we've already waited way too long for your game:
1/ AFTER the deadline, the strategic turn is played until the last player in the turn order
2/ that player plays his turn, saves & quits, copy the save game to a backup folder
3/ that player re-enters the game and surrenders, then takes screenshots of all the scores. He does NOT end the turn. Instead he quits the game without ending the turn.
4/ he sends the screenshots to judges (Marcus, Jonny and me)
5/ judges check the scores and take a decision


Also @all: please update the class/race of each player in the report.

Published on Mon, 15 Jul 2019 00:00:26 +0200

Confirmed by SleepingDog
Confirmed by SleepingDog

user
Published on Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:31:01 +0200

Admin report to start round 4. Waiting for $eeR to end his turn so that personian can play the last turn.


user
Published on Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:27:51 +0200

Hi! It's apparently $eeR's turn. @$eeR: please play your turn ASAP so that personian can end this game.

You got 2 warning equivalent to warning for reloads without adequate proof for 1/ your reload without proof, and 2/ the fact that you did not send a video of what happened when you reloaded to judges. This is your final warning before disqualification.

I'm doing an admin report for the game so that round 4 can start.

Published on Sat, 13 Jul 2019 00:38:58 +0200

Last player is personian

user
Published on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 23:29:31 +0200

Anyone still alive here? I think the last player is either $eeR or Lck. Without answer within 24 hours, I'll do an admin report and I'm sending a message to other judges to consider giving a free victory to one team.

user
Published on Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:07:37 +0200

Hi! The deadline for the end of round expired 3 days ago. Judges decided not to give further expansion but $eeR's team will get a score malus due to the delay the last week.
So this is your last turn.

$eeR, we're still waiting for your videos to give the final verdict, please send that ASAP.

For other players, who is the last in the turn order?
Please play the game until that player is reached, he will then have to follow this procedure. @the last player in turn order: please confirm you have read and understood.

1/ AFTER the deadline, the strategic turn is played until the last player in the turn order
2/ that player plays his turn, saves & quits, copy the save game to a backup folder
3/ that player re-enters the game and surrenders, then takes screenshots of all the scores. He does NOT end the turn. Instead he quits the game without ending the turn.
4/ he sends the screenshots to judges (Marcus, Jonny and me)
5/ judges check the scores and take a decision

user
Published on Sun, 07 Jul 2019 11:44:07 +0200

Sorry $eeR but that's not the way it works. It's judges who say how the game proceeds when there is a crash, not players. So you can't continue if we don't have the video, and all the time the game lost due to you means less malus for your team.
Putting a video on YouTube is a lot easier than subscribing to 20 mods, so everybody is confident you can achieve it. Just log on to your Google account (or create one) and put upload the 2 videos and put them as "unlisted" and send  the link to the 3 judges. OR, put the 2 videos on WeTransfer (even easier) or a similar site and send us the link.

@other players: please don't play your turn for now.

user
Published on Sun, 07 Jul 2019 11:17:22 +0200

tried to catch marcus to witness the reload , it did give notification ..i used bandicam and recorded turn in two clips 10 min and 5 min it was a really uneventful turn....i did no cheating lets press on to keep going as we want to keep pace with other round games ?

send me the email you wish clips sent to and ill do it when i can

been working a ton with new GIANT liquor store to run

also when are we starting on AoW5 developments   planetfall now being beta tested right ?

user
Published on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 00:03:31 +0200

Hi $eeR, it's been a week and we still haven't a clear path forward to record the video or have a broadcast which can be recorded. I understand you're busy at your job but still, it's delaying the game. We're going to consider penalties for your team in case of score victory due to the delay.

Please let us know when you can record it (several softwares mentioned, several pretty easy to use) or at least broadcast it at a time when Marcus can watch and record it.
Time is running out for your match....

user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:37:51 +0200

While I might be available to watch a stream, it is then necessary for me to record your stream to share with Hiliadan and Jonny. We dont want to have only one decision for any eventual problems.

Like Hiliadan said, please try record. I use "Screen-o-matic" and find it quite good, others use Bandicam and OBS, even iSpring have been mentioned. For a low performance Laptop I would not recommend OBS, I find it take too much computer power, but others might think different.

You could even use your phone to record the turn if all else fail.

user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:26:56 +0200

Please do a test of recording a SP game and check with Marcus about his availability to watch a broadcast.

user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 03:55:04 +0200

don't know if game will even run on this laptop while recording , but if absolute must i will try 


can i not just get marcuspers to witness the reload ?

user
Published on Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:05:34 +0200

I am not going to watch your broadcast on Steam. Please install Bandicam or OBS to record your turn, not just broadcast it as we can't be online at the same time as you.
You'll need to play in debug mode from now on (except this turn as you would not be able to enter the turn if you switched debug mode on now).

Still waiting for a PM from SleepingDog and personian, contacting them by PM.

user
Published on Thu, 27 Jun 2019 04:49:18 +0200

i don't think ive ever run game in debug mode except maybe once hiliadan.


there is not any critical conflicts going to occur on this turn  as none of our main armies are likely near eachother



just random crash  , and yes i guess i have no evidence.


i invite you or marcuspers to watch my steam broadcast on reload   if desired.

i could repeat the same steps to seee if it crashes again the same ?

or maybe it won't even trigger a reload notification i have no idea might be possible


i still await instructions , we are losing time to finish this game.....i really dislike this decide by score stuff....but i expect this one will end up this way if you keep to the round schedules

user
Published on Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:08:39 +0200

Hi! So you have no proof? Were you running in debug mode?
Can you record full screen with AoW3 in windowed mode so that we see the timestamp, etc. (with Bandicam or OBS for example)?
Please do not re-open the turn just yet.

SleepingDog and personian, can you please update marcuspers, Jonny Thunder and me by PM about the current situation in the game?

user
Published on Wed, 26 Jun 2019 01:32:28 +0200

Hey Guys , just had a crash in the diplomacy menu while responding to my allies message , anybody had this happen before ?


it was the first thing i did this turn was read his message and then close 


looked around map for a sec then went on to write back to him and program stalled , had little circle mouse thing so i waited hoping it would pull through.......then when i went to hit F12 to try to take a screenshot it went white and crashed before i could even whip out my celphone and take a pic.



i expect this will cause an ironman restart warning......but i will hold off on loading it for a while here in hopes one of the judges gives me a go -ahead to continue.

maybe it won't trigger , who knows....but program crashed......felt obligated to report here

Published on Sun, 02 Jun 2019 15:17:58 +0200

We are at turn 19.

user
Published on Sat, 01 Jun 2019 23:42:22 +0200

Hi all! Ok good to hear you're moving at a good pace.
So what turn are you in now?

user
Published on Sun, 26 May 2019 02:59:44 +0200

Hi Guys , i am moving to a different city over the next 3-4 days

could we please remove the turn timer for the next 4 days or so. and i will play turns when i can during that period.


Hiliadan , we are making decent progress pretty much a full turn per day for each player.

Published on Sun, 26 May 2019 02:58:03 +0200
System notification


Round 3 : 2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament #22
Please click here to read the rules.

In order to avoid advantaging one team or the other, for each match, the team who will host the match was randomly selected.
The first team in the "turn order" above (who is also the team on top in the tree here must host the game).


Any of the players in the team can host.
Tournament Game #22 Round  !

When players do not show up for their match, the Tournament Judges have the right to change the match!

user
Published on Sat, 25 May 2019 23:31:58 +0200

Hi! What turn did you reach so far?
Please also update the game on the BF to "ongoing".

user
Published on Tue, 07 May 2019 17:34:02 +0200

Hi!

Good to see your game is finally started!

1 of you should apply the notification for turns for all players, so that when the turn change to another player you also get an email. This will allow us to track if one team is delaying the game, and that team can then be penalized at the end of the game, if no winner is found before the game ends.

It would also be good if a 1-day timer is implemented, this will in theory mean that delaying is not possible.

Published on Thu, 02 May 2019 18:14:44 +0200

started

Published on Tue, 30 Apr 2019 19:38:54 +0200

Seer didn't join yet...

user
Published on Tue, 30 Apr 2019 19:36:53 +0200

Hi! Were you able to start the game? If not, who is holding it back? Please start ASAP.

Published on Sun, 28 Apr 2019 05:03:47 +0200

Hosted. Still same PW...

user
Published on Sat, 27 Apr 2019 18:23:54 +0200

Yes, that's probably because SleepingDog had to change his slot.
So in the rehost, please join directly in slot #2 or #4 SleepingDog...

Published on Sat, 27 Apr 2019 18:19:11 +0200

Same bug like my last pbem game. If i try pick the leader my game is crush without reason. Please make again lobby

user
Published on Sat, 27 Apr 2019 17:49:17 +0200

Lck have been active in discord, so I guess I will send him a PM there.

Published on Sat, 27 Apr 2019 15:14:34 +0200

Anyone know what's up with Lck?

Published on Thu, 25 Apr 2019 18:24:11 +0200

Still waiting for Lck to join. 

user
Published on Mon, 22 Apr 2019 16:15:17 +0200

Ok settings are good, but you're still in slot #1, please move to slot #2 and should be good.

Published on Mon, 22 Apr 2019 15:52:37 +0200

PW: PBEM 2v2 Tournament