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Game #995 Tournament game#20 | Round 3 : 2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament #20

Ezekiel vs  AlXStormrage vs  Nook vs  Melciar


Match Details

Played:2019-07-12
Rating 3 - Regular Game
Amount of Humans:4
Kind of Report:2018 PBEM 2vs2 Tournament
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 62
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 EzekielArchdruidElves11100here
1 AlXStormrageTheocratFrostlings11200here
2 Nookunknownunknown200-50here
2 Melciarunknownunknown2-130-30here
Posts to the game:
user
Published on Fri, 12 Jul 2019 15:01:28 +0200

Confirmed by AlXStormrage
Confirmed by AlXStormrage

user
Published on Fri, 12 Jul 2019 15:01:02 +0200

Won by a judges's decision


user
Published on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 23:38:27 +0200

Hi! Please report ASAP.
@Bastards of the North: please send class/race for your game vs Marcus and DreadReapr.

user
Published on Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:11:07 +0200

Hi! So it's a shame you reached only turn 23 but unfortunately that's the way it is.

Bastards of the North are leading on all score and the judges decided that their score lead on some indicators were sufficient to give them the victory.

We lacked the turn notifications from all players to be able to apply score malus as AlX collected only his turn notification. My bad too, I should have checked earlier.

Please report the game ASAP and prepare for round 4 as it will start very soon.

user
Published on Sun, 07 Jul 2019 12:03:27 +0200

Hi! As requested at the beginning of the match, could you please send me the turn notifications to check whether there should be an adjustment to scores due to delays? See http://www.the-battlefield.co... />
One option to send them is to forward them one by one. Another would be to take screenshots showing the timestamp of each turn notifications, might be faster. I'm sending you my email by PM.

user
Published on Fri, 05 Jul 2019 21:04:48 +0200

The game has been played and the score sent to the judges.

user
Published on Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:04:39 +0200

Hi, 

I was very late back home tomorrow and had to leave early in the morning, so will do my turn and send the screens today in the evening.

user
Published on Thu, 04 Jul 2019 22:30:42 +0200

Hi! So this is your last turn now. When it comes back to AlX, he has to follow the procedure here: https://www.the-battlefield.c...


user
Published on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 00:04:44 +0200

Hi! Less than 48 hours left on this game. Could the last player of the round (who seems to be AlX?) please confirm he read the process to follow AFTER the deadline of 2019-07-04 8:42 PM GMT+0?

user
Published on Sun, 30 Jun 2019 18:09:05 +0200

Hi! We received the video from AlX. You can continue the game.

You have 4 extra days to compensate for the judging time. So the deadline is 2019-07-04 8:42 PM GMT+0.

user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 21:38:21 +0200

Activate or de-activate debug mode and you'll be able to enter the game.
The "wrong version" message is a bug from AoW3, it's not the issue.

user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 19:03:20 +0200

I'm not able to start the game, as it seems there was update of the PBEM mod?
I'm updating it via the update button (via launcher) however when opening games window, the game looks inaccessible to me.
do you need me to do screenshots/video of that?

user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:28:19 +0200

Ok for iSpring.
The most convenient to send the video is YouTube as a private video (so only people with the link can see it).

user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 01:02:55 +0200

Hi, 

I'm not usually playing in debug mode, I can turn it on, if needed.
I can record with the iSpring as I usually do(I actually recorded some turns, but unfortunatelly not all of them and not this one). Time will be seen in the beginning (I have floating windows taskbar, so need to hower with the mouse to see it) and I'll hower over it few more times throughout the turn.
Additionally, how should I present the video (e.g. upload to the youtube and present link to judges?)?

user
Published on Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:28:14 +0200

Ok so the judges agreed to give a warning for reload with adequate proof to AlX. AlX, were you playing in debug mode? If yes, please send the log. If not, please switch it on after this turn.
Also, please record the turn from before you enter the game (so that we see the Ironman message) to the end of turn, in windowed mode (so that we see the timestamp). You can do that with OBS or Bandicam for instance (though the latter is limited to 10 minutes so you'd need to launch recording immediately after it stops every 10 minutes).

@Nook and Melciar: please send to the judges an update on how the game is going (any major battles, etc.).

user
Published on Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:08:51 +0200

Hi! Round 3 ends in a bit less than 3 days (see the time count here: https://www.the-battlefield.c... ).

We are currently discussing the crash of AlX and you'll get a couple of days of extra time to compensate for judging time.

Yet, it seems unlikely that your match will be won before the deadline. It might therefore be decided by score. The procedure is as follow:

1/ the current strategic turn is played until the last player in the turn order
2/ that player plays his turn, saves & quits, copy the save game to a backup folder
3/ that player re-enters the game and surrenders, then takes screenshots of all the scores. He does NOT end the turn. Instead he quits the game without ending the turn.
4/ he sends the screenshots to judges (Marcus, Jonny and me)
5/ judges check the scores and take a decision

Could you please confirm who is the last player in the turn order? Can this player please confirm he read this message and understood?

user
Published on Wed, 26 Jun 2019 22:26:27 +0200

Hi guys, 

I just had an AoW3 error, I'm sending screenshot to the judges.

user
Published on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:24:27 +0200

So guys my turn (soon) to lead the game to a halt. Going on a small trip from thursday morning until sunday evening. Please turn on the turn timer when we reach late wednesday/early thursday.

Cheers.

Published on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:06:12 +0200

Thanks. Melciar will be back tomorrow

user
Published on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:36:32 +0200

Turn timer stopped.

user
Published on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:41:51 +0200

Hi guys,

In case of a missed turn please pause the game so the judges can make a decision.

Please confirm timer is off or other useful information.
/Marcus

Published on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:52:05 +0200

It looks like the timer is still ticking, despite my request to stop it due to Melciar's business trip

Published on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 07:14:27 +0200

Hi, turn off timer please. Melciar is going today to the business trip for 2 days.

user
Published on Sat, 01 Jun 2019 14:13:17 +0200

Turn timer on.

user
Published on Wed, 22 May 2019 23:53:15 +0200

Yes, you can play your turn but of course don't put back turn timer before Melciar is back.

user
Published on Wed, 22 May 2019 22:57:03 +0200

Nook, I believe Hillia said that we can resume the game, even if we'll wait for Melciar

Published on Tue, 21 May 2019 08:09:40 +0200

Hi, Melciar left for 7 days in previous business trip. So can I play my turn?

user
Published on Mon, 20 May 2019 22:35:34 +0200

Hi!
Ok, yes you're right that you are not helped by Melciar's business trips and the late start. I'm going to discuss with judges what to do for the 2 weeks of delay you suffered due to rickyroo and Light quitting + waiting for round 2.

Regarding the turn skipped, we agreed among judges that there should be no revert as there was no "force majeure" which caused the turn to be skipped, beyond control of the players. Hopefully the situation won't occur again.
So you can resume the game. As Melciar is away, please don't put back the turn timer, but please put it after, as your game is unfortunately behind.

What was the duration of Melciar's previous business trip?

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 23:11:30 +0200

Hillia, 

when I said - we were fine with our pace, I meant while Melciar didn't embark on the BT. If I recall correct we did 1 turn a day (or in 2 days). Also we started later due to ending previous games later and some organisational issues, so that explains why we're not far into the game.
 I've stopped game timer, also Melciar will be away for one more week (till Saturday it seems). 

Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 20:29:04 +0200

And we reached the turn 7 

Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 20:25:26 +0200

Hi all. I have not played my turn yet. I'm waiting as Ezekiel asked. I have bad news. Melciar again went on a business trip until Saturday. Please stop the timer.

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 18:12:58 +0200

You need to pause the game because 1/ there is always flexibility in the rules (rule 7: "When the rules are imprecise or do not cover a case, Judges have flexibility to take the most appropriate decisions."), and 2/ there can be a need for an investigation of what's going on. The pause is not there only to allow a revert, so the fact that a pause is requested and still no revert is allowed is not a farce.
The posts I made today were not to give the decision of the judges for this specific case but to remind the rules. I said "turn revert at the initiative of the players" are not allowed but judges can allow a revert in very special cases...

I understand your frustration, it's always very annoying when a turn is missed.
When I think you write "which was forced to us by the judge, btw. we were fine with our pace", you should realize that you did not finish your previous two games in time and you were only turn 5 with only 35 days left (now), so objectively, your pace is not fast enough.

I am still waiting for the other 2 judges' feedback. So there is still a need to pause the game.
Nobody answered me to confirm whether Nook indeed had played his turn.

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 17:59:59 +0200

Hillia, then why do we even bother to report or stop the game? if the reverts are not allowed even in case when someone else failed to stop the timer (which was forced to us by the judge, btw. we were fine with our pace), then the whole "Stop the game and wait for the judges decision" thing is nothing more than a farce. 

With that said I assume there's no need to stop the game now?

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 16:54:51 +0200

Don't borher for now, really. Just for another time, if that comes.

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 15:35:04 +0200

Reverts are forbidden not because of whose fault it is so the fact that it’s your fault (and not the other team’s fault) actually does not make a revert more justified.

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 14:44:40 +0200

guys, I apologize for the mess, it was my fault... I forgot to remove the timer, although Eskild did warn in advance.

I believe that the revert must be done, as it was not Eskild's fault.

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 13:45:07 +0200

Turn reverts at the initiative of players are forbidden by the rules: "If a player skips his turn because of the timer, it is not allowed to revert the turn: the host should remove the turn timer and players should notify judges and wait for their indications on how to continue." (rule 3)
To clarify: Nook already played the turn after the turn of Ezekiel was skipped, right? I'm contacting the other judges. Nook should not have played, as rule 3 states that judges should be notified and players should wait for their indications on how to continue.

user
Published on Sun, 19 May 2019 13:13:39 +0200

Apparently it was not, got a turn skipped notification. Nook - please hold on for another time - we waited 5 days for Melciar´s business trip. We could have waited 4-5 hours for AlX to revert turn and me to do mine.