Game #846 Tournament game#62 | Round 10 : 2017 PBEM Duel Tournament #62

gabthegab vs  Jean_de_Metz

Match Details

Rating 2 - Nice Game
Amount of Humans:2
Kind of Report:2017 PBEM Duel Tournament
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 49
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 gabthegabRogueGoblins1900here
2 Jean_de_MetzNecromancerTigrans2-90-20here
Posts to the game:
Published on Fri, 19 Oct 2018 23:35:49 +0200

Confirmed by Jean_de_Metz
Confirmed by Jean_de_Metz

Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:27:48 +0200

Hello, i am sory for you , i hope thing become good for you, i wish you the best...

Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:15:56 +0200

Good evening!
We are on turn 44 at the moment and I have made up my mind to concede in this match.
The game is not yet over for me but I am in a pretty bad position and I am not sure I am able to win this game (If Gabriel doesn't make any serious strategic mistakes). He is playing very well while I can't completely concentrate on this finals. A lot has happened in my life in the last 6 months (since our previous match) and I feel like it will be the best for me to take some rest especially from such hard matches like this. 
The game lasted 1,5 months, first I was enjoying it but now I really want to pay attention to other things.
I won't change my mind and I will concede in the game when I get my new turn. 
I want to thank my opponents in this tournament and the judges for ruling and being with us - you did a very good job, guys! I wish you the very best in your life and remember - AOW is just a game which should bring you positive feelings and emotions - otherwise it's not worth playing it
- Jean

Published on Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:49:06 +0200

Ok you can continue.

Published on Fri, 12 Oct 2018 23:18:30 +0200

So there was an issue and Jean got a reload. He sent videos and cooperated but unfortunately, that is insufficient. So he gets a warning for reload without proof.
Jean must replay the same moves (including 1 attack on gab) he made last time. After he completes his past moves, he must not attack gab any more this turn (just like could not attack Jean when he had the crash).
The turn must of course be recorded and Jean has to upload it so that we're sure it's played entirely in what we see in the video.

@gab: please DO NOT play your turn until you have a green light from judges.

Thanks both. You'll get a time extension to compensate the judging time, I'll have a look at how much time it represents later.

Published on Thu, 11 Oct 2018 20:24:05 +0200
System notification

Round 10 : 2017 PBEM Duel Tournament #62
Please click here to read the rules. In order to avoid advantaging one team or the other, for each match, the team who will host the match was randomly selected.The first team in the "turn order" above (who is also the team on top in the tree here) must host the game. Tournament Game #62 Round ! When players do not show up for their match, the Tournament Judges have the right to change the match!

Published on Thu, 04 Oct 2018 05:14:24 +0200

Hello, no timer in this game since the begining <smiletext0>

Published on Wed, 03 Oct 2018 16:19:33 +0200

Hello Gab!

Can you please take off the timer.
Jean have made us aware of a problem in his turn and me and Hiliadan are currently discussing how we should proceed.
The game is on pause until further notice.


Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 15:15:21 +0200


We must ask that all players are behaving in a professional manner, that means no insulting, trolling, rudeness or otherwise disrespectful comments. All mentions of cheating or potential cheating is just silly. If you have any proof or suspicion you should send your thoughts in a PM to me, Fistandtilus and Hiliadan. Then we investigate and ask the game to be paused while we review the evidence. So, there is the procedure, so if you want to mention cheating again, you know what to do!

There is no warnings more than what is mentioned above, but if the disrespectful comments don't stop there will be in the future.

Please now continue the match in a professional matter!

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 15:10:23 +0200

No way the only real prove of none cheat is play his turn in one time with reccording without cut load and unload, for the rest you can ask to dev what you want lol <smiletext0>.
5 days this is your turn...

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 14:23:52 +0200

You definitely have the right to think and believe in anything you want.
Unfortunately for you, when you say that I cheat you are really lying:
I have expected such an attitude from you and did everything to prevent any suspicions:
1. I am recording all the turns.
2. I have no crashes at all (in comparison to you)
3. Every turn I copy the PBEM save and put it in a special folder so basically I have PBEM saves of all the turns.
I can send them to the developers, they can open them (similar to what was done, I guess, in the case of Darkrider) and check that everything is perfect.
After you lost the semifinals to me, you proved to be a player who doesn't know how to lose at all. You tried to find cheating moments but there were none of them. It won't work this time too.
You can suspect every player you lose to, it's up to you.
Maybe the best way is just to finish the game and never see you playing here again (as you said you would leave).
I won't answer you more, don't want to waste my time. 

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 13:48:29 +0200

I'm just saying truths, free to you to think that it's insults, and I also have the right to think you're cheating.  Truth hurts more than lying, doesn't it?
For information : I said that I did not want to continue because I thought that the slightest crash would disqualify me, which is not the case.

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:54:19 +0200

Hello, Gabriel. I did not answer you because in general I don't even want to talk to you after so many insults and accusations from your part. Two days ago you wrote here that you were going to surrender and, in order to clarify the situation, I contacted Hiliadan and asked him to talk to you. It seems that you have changed your mind (your own words mean nothing to you) and you once again started to insult me.
As to my style of playing: I try to play fast and often play my turns having a break at work. I usually think a lot where to move my forces and how to make a perfect tactical fight. Of course the turn takes a while and I often have to finish it later. If you don't work, Gabriel, it doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't.
I didn't expect such a rude attitude towards me here from such an old person like you, Gabriel. I am tired of you constantly impling that I cheat without any real proof or even reason. And thus I won't continue playing the game before I get an official response here from the judges. 
There is rule 6 of the tournament state which sais that rudeness is not allowed as well as repeatedly trolling. I don't really understand... how can I get some pleasure of playing the finals when my opponent behaves like this? Can the judges answer this question here? At least I expect it.

- Jean

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:58:23 +0200

Gladis, you are not involved in this game so it might be better to avoid posting about it...

And to clarify:
- it is allowed to play in several times, saving & exiting. Though we appreciate players who don't do that and play in one go.
- saving & exiting or playing in one go are no guarantee of no cheating or of cheating. Judges have different ways to assess cheating and videos even with saving & exiting in the middle are very helpful for the assessment.
- there is not more monitoring of gab than of Jean, we monitor closely ALL finals of tournaments and all finalists.

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:50:05 +0200

I understood your Point. But I play in several steps as well. Use safe and exit to avoid fighting all fights again after a crash. So I can't blame Jean for doing it. Aren't you allowed to do so? 

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 07:51:43 +0200

Hmmm Gladis i mean play a turn in one time without cut, like i do all my turn like this every body can be sur i Don't cheat, On the contrary, Jean plays each of his turn in several times like this we can not verify that he does not cheat...

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 07:07:21 +0200

Real sportmanship here <smiletext1>
I doubt you really have to play in one turn...

Published on Fri, 28 Sep 2018 06:16:56 +0200

Jean you say nothing, ok I'm not mistaken about you, it's you turn! you can finish your turn because i know you play in many time me i must play in one time but not you may be you cheat or may your brain is a little slow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Published on Wed, 26 Sep 2018 06:16:23 +0200

You don't respect me i am the player who have the more constraint and for judge this is not normal!
4 days ago i say jean have play without green light and you say nothing yesterday i say ok i play too because i know i don't cheat and because i have play we have warning,if you have give a warning to jean i wait for play but you don't...
You have kill my pleasure of play and play with the risk of be disqualify because of a last warning finish me i surrender!
Jean if you want finish the game without judge let play else congratulation you win!(of course i will continu to make video of all my turn without cut in one time and send save to hilidian)

Published on Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:49:35 +0200

Hi! We finished reviewing the videos and what I posted in my previous message is still valid.

@gab: as said by email, please resend the log as the file you sent was not the right one.

Both gab and Jean also get a warning as they played their turn without green light from judges, despite the message saying "please wait for the greenlight before playing your own turn." and discussion by private chat clarifying (to gab) the turn should not be played, and also despite this rule 4/ that explains players should wait for judges feedback "allowing the game to continue" before playing again.
For gab, it's a final warning for such a disrespect of judges' request to wait before continuing the game: next time it will be a disqualification.
Your game is well advanced and it's pretty sure you'll finish it before the deadline + you can get extra time due to the time judges took to assess proofs, etc. so there is no hurry and really no reason to make our work more difficult by playing turns before we give the greenlight.

You can start playing again. Good luck both for the final stage!

Published on Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:57:29 +0200

Hi! So all 3 judges agreed on:
- the video provided is an adequate proof for the crash, so gab gets a warning for reload with adequate proof
- gab should make the exact same movements when he replays
- gab can't attack Jean this turn (due to the crash)

So @gab: please send a video after you redo the turn. To be able to play, please turn off debug mode for this turn (turn it back on after please).
@Jean: please wait for the greenlight before playing your own turn.

Also, @gab: please send the log file from the crash (in C:\Users\[your user name]\Documents\My Games\AoW3\Logs).
@both: please note that in case of crash, you should not turn off the recording until AoW3 is fully closed (so first close AoW3 then turn off recording).

Published on Tue, 18 Sep 2018 06:08:27 +0200

I have a crash on my turn. I post a video for judge, i Don't know want happen , i have test to play again just for see if i have the message iron mod, but i can't play i have mod conflict...Of course i can do exactly same move but i can't play because of mod conflict!

Published on Mon, 17 Sep 2018 14:17:05 +0200

Hello, may be if you play in one time and not in many time you can play in one day!
For me like you play with many video in one turn you can cheat easily! Juge think this is good not me!!!

Published on Sun, 16 Sep 2018 22:05:48 +0200

I had a pretty difficult week at work so I decided to take a "day off" in making turns today. I guess it's okay since we are already at turn 30.
I guess I will make my turn tomorrow in the evening.
- Jean

Published on Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:45:31 +0200

Settings are OK and I was able to check things with everyone so you're good to go. Don't play too fast.

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 14:10:56 +0200

Too late we Don't have see the message for wait we are turn 2 this is the turn of jean...

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 12:45:48 +0200

Hi guys, please pause the game, I'd like to double-check the settings and discuss with both before start.....

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 12:30:33 +0200

Same for you Jean <smiletext0>, Game is start!

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 11:56:15 +0200

Good luck and have fun <smiletext0>

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:37:44 +0200

Settings looks good, it's quite hard to verify in French but with Googles help everything is possible <smiletext0>

I know you are both eager to get going, so you can start!

Please verify when you join that you not play on the beta branch, even if the name of the mod for now have the name beta in it.

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 08:44:33 +0200

PW: jean

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 08:25:42 +0200

OH yes i have take screen shoot of the same screen i will host again and take good screen shot….

Published on Mon, 03 Sep 2018 07:30:17 +0200

Thanks for uploading the screenshots!
Image 2 and 3 is the same, maybe an error in upload? 
Do you have the screenshot of the terrain/geography?

Thanks in advance,

Published on Sun, 02 Sep 2018 22:08:41 +0200


Published on Sun, 02 Sep 2018 13:06:11 +0200

Class and race of Jean is received!
Just waiting for screenshots and confirmation of those, then this Final match is ready to start.
Good luck to both players!

Published on Sat, 01 Sep 2018 23:26:52 +0200

Hi there!
We have the class/race of Jean. Jean, please send yours ASAP.
gab, you're hosting, please set up the game and post screenshots in windowed mode.

This match uses v1.25 on the MAIN branch of the balance mod.

Good luck and remember to have fun! This match should be pretty epic! <smiletext0>